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AOW4 Review


AOW4 from the point of view of an AOW3 player

2023-05-19 16:19:06| Posted by MARKYMARK

After long AOW3 years one could expect a completely renewed AOW4, especially after the unofficial further development AOW Planetfall.
Well, new doesn't necessarily mean better, sometimes the old part is better, how does it play in this new complexity? Pantheon ?



What has changed to AOW3? Since I'm a CIV player myself, I'm also writing the review from the point of view of a CIV
or builder player. The first game was really bad, I actually wanted to play a campaign, but somehow I only found maps with or
no story... so i took the first map and made an elf... to match the map.

What went wrong? The development of the empire was really new and I didn't have an eye on it, but it's a very important element that partly ran through the research tree in AOW3, e.g. B. the property of waters of the units. The Tree....



I was desperately looking for settlers and pioneers, disappeared .... but found out pretty quickly that you can set up outposts and then convert them into cities with empire points, so I did that a few times until I exceeded my limit of cities by far became ... the result was a big minus, and after that my army greatly decreased. Only then did I realize how important Reich development was.
Welcome was the auto-scout mode known from CIV games, finally here! Which was also welcome...auto combat, without the hassle of losing your hero and if you weren't satisfied, you redid the battle manually without having to load the save again.



Two things were particularly annoying: the first, that you can assign a hero to a city, and the second, that you can assign a hero to a city. Why that? Really necessary, certainly a nice feature, but I found it annoying when it should happen automatically without a menu. The second annoying thing was the selection of the magic books, and my effort to click through that quickly, here you should be guided through the starting magic book, here I have actually already decided on an orientation. Okay, nice feature, but is it really necessary? Or does it rather make everything very complicated and couldn't it have been automated?

The building was very pleasant, I love to develop, but it was a bit too much from my point of view... you can even build a lot of special buildings that I never really used because I was mostly looking for a quick game. The fights were pleasant and exciting like in AOW3, it was noticeable that you can do more magic and even more often, clearly a fun factor.

The multiplayer made a buggy impression, the first game was characterized by crashes and various other bugs (games were no longer found), but overall it makes a pleasant and good impression, the separation of PBEM and online has been overcome and makes a fairly simple impression.

Speaking of multiplayer? Does one page make sense? I think yes, it's definitely a game that offers long-term fun and offers very good multiplayer options, but what's the point? I think a tool for creating random games and random fractions makes sense, because the menu is very extensive, and fraction creation and maps would have to be very adapted, you would have to think about a few things in advance. I'll probably finish the site in the fall, since some things have to be redone if I have the time at all.



Player
8 players possible, in AOW4 9 players are possible

Stacks
7 stacks max, in AOW4 6 stacks, more balanced
AOW4 is better because an AI thinks for itself, which means fewer problems with wrong mouse clicks and the advantage of 4 to 3 stacks is eliminated (sometimes had extreme effects)

Races/classes
AOW3 rigidly specified, AOW4 there are significantly more customization options or races/classes are summarized there under factions.

Unit Tier System
in AOW3 only up to T4, in AOW4 it was extended to T5, built in cities but can only be done with T3 (without spellbooks and research)
The maintenance costs have also changed. The expansion to 5 levels makes perfect sense.

Cure
Units heal slower in AOW4 (can no longer be pushed through tactical battles), however units in battle can be healed temporarily (it doesn't carry over on the strategic map)

Map creation
AOW3 classic with map size and/with UG (with a lot of detailed settings), in AOW4 you miss it, but many new options that you have to get to know first

Campaigns
AOW3 campaigns were very extensive and friendly, in AOW4 there is a pantheon but no more campaign, only story cards, I found it better in AOW3

Translation
Translation bad or partially incomplete in AOW4, AOW3 was better there, but there is still room for bug fixes

City screen
are now 2 queues, buildings and units. So you no longer have to decide between a building and a unit.
The negative thing is that he also deducts the costs from the queue, so you shouldn't let the queue get too big

Vassals
Missions now last longer, which also makes missions easier to implement .
Mobilization Instead of recruiting units from the vassals, mobilization waves are now running.
The units gather in the capital and are no longer widely scattered.

Research
Awkward (additional menus pop up) and wild about spell books, it's a little lost

Empire development
New feature, in AOW3 was partly done through research and global spells, you can expand your realm with additional properties, can be very powerful.

Diplomacy
Little new, already largely known from AOW3, but if you build cities too close to an AI empire, the relationship can suffer (border conflicts)

Unity Enchantments
Didn't exist in AOW3, enchanting is very powerful, you can sensitively influence the mana balance.

Global Spells
See also empire development, global spells on units can be very powerful

Conclusion
Altogether successful, for an AOW3 player it is definitely a must to deal with AOW4, both parts have their advantages, I think. Many points of criticism in AOW3 have been cleared up. Personally, AOW4 is a bit too complex for me, but it is definitely a game that will keep you busy for a long time. Beautiful multiplayer events and tournaments are definitely conceivable.






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2022-10-19 10:45:55| Posted by myl_supporter

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Round 2: Game#3 mahimka beat Ezekiel
Round 2: Game#4 marcuspers beat Zytozid
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2022-10-01 10:06:06| Posted by myl_supporter

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The following matches were played:
Round 1: Game#1 keika beat Refineus
Round 1: Game#2 El_Lobo beat MARKYMARK
Round 2: Game#3 keika beat MARKYMARK
Round 2: Game#4 El_Lobo beat Refineus
Round 3: Game#5 keika beat El_Lobo
Round 3: Game#6 Refineus beat MARKYMARK
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2022-08-24 09:17:48| Posted by myl_supporter

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Round 1: Game#2 Skuns453Lirik902 beat DacrioS
Round 2: Game#3 Moridin beat DacrioS
Round 2: Game#4 Skuns453Lirik902 beat DrLight
Round 3: Game#5 Skuns453Lirik902 beat Moridin
Round 3: Game#6 DrLight beat DacrioS
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2022-04-19 21:52:00| Posted by MARKYMARK

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Round 1: Group1 Game#1 rage beat Brabrax
Round 1: Group1 Game#2 hundepriester beat luxi68
Round 1: Group2 Game#3 Kolumbus beat Fry3k
Round 1: Group2 Game#4 Nighty beat FANDAZMA
Round 1: Group3 Game#5 Sharkbit beat asbobsnake
Round 1: Group3 Game#6 Buktu beat CRoyX76
Round 1: Group4 Game#7 Phönix beat Mainzer0108
Round 1: Group4 Game#8 ARISTOBULUS beat MARKYMARK
Round 2: Group1 Game#9 luxi68 beat rage
Round 2: Group1 Game#10 hundepriester beat Brabrax
Round 2: Group2 Game#11 Nighty beat Kolumbus
Round 2: Group2 Game#12 Fry3k beat FANDAZMA
Round 2: Group3 Game#13 CRoyX76 beat asbobsnake
Round 2: Group3 Game#14 Buktu beat Sharkbit
Round 2: Group4 Game#15 Phönix beat MARKYMARK
Round 2: Group4 Game#16 ARISTOBULUS beat Mainzer0108
Round 3: Group1 Game#17 rage beat hundepriester
Round 3: Group1 Game#18 luxi68 beat Brabrax
Round 3: Group2 Game#19 Kolumbus beat FANDAZMA
Round 3: Group2 Game#20 Nighty beat Fry3k
Round 3: Group3 Game#21 Buktu beat asbobsnake
Round 3: Group3 Game#22 CRoyX76 beat Sharkbit
Round 3: Group4 Game#23 ARISTOBULUS beat Phönix
Round 3: Group4 Game#24 MARKYMARK beat Mainzer0108
Round 4: Game#25 Phönix beat luxi68
Round 4: Game#26 Nighty beat CRoyX76
Round 4: Game#27 Buktu beat Kolumbus
Round 4: Game#28 ARISTOBULUS beat rage
Round 5: Game#29 Phönix beat Nighty
Round 5: Game#30 ARISTOBULUS beat Buktu
Round 6: Game#31 ARISTOBULUS beat Phönix
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2022-04-04 14:18:53| Posted by myl_supporter

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The following matches were played:
Round 1: Game#1 marcuspers beat El_Lobo
Round 1: Game#2 mahimka beat Blad_ua
Round 2: Game#3 mahimka beat marcuspers
Round 2: Game#4 El_Lobo beat Blad_ua
Round 3: Game#5 Blad_ua beat marcuspers
Round 3: Game#6 mahimka beat El_Lobo
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2022-03-11 20:14:41| Posted by myl_supporter

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Round 1: Game#1 Refineus beat Th30n
Round 1: Game#2 Ezekiel beat Sin Arcain
Round 2: Game#3 Sin Arcain beat Refineus
Round 2: Game#4 Ezekiel beat Th30n
Round 3: Game#5 Ezekiel beat Refineus
Round 3: Game#6 Sin Arcain beat Th30n
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2022-03-11 18:44:36| Posted by myl_supporter

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Round 1: Game#1 Zytozid beat Moridin
Round 1: Game#2 Skuns453Lirik902 beat DrLight
Round 2: Game#3 Skuns453Lirik902 beat Moridin
Round 2: Game#4 Zytozid beat DrLight
Round 3: Game#5 DrLight beat Moridin
Round 3: Game#6 Zytozid beat Skuns453Lirik902
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2021-04-30 17:06:27| Posted by Skuns453Lirik902

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PBEM and Single Player Balance Mod v1.3: one of the last few major updates


v1.3 is the first of the v1.3x update: it significantly changes mobility over Water, altering the relative advantages of Swimming, Floating and Flying units, modifies the costs of strategic spells to make non-summon spellcasting more viable across the board, and pushes the cursor further in favour of production vs mind-control. These change massively impact the game. As usual, it also improves description of skills, abilities, etc. to improve player experience.

2021-04-24 00:05:25| Posted by Hiliadan

Three broad areas are affected by this release:

  • Boost to production & defense and further tweaks to Mind-control strategies (50% higher upkeep of Mind-controlled units, Lesser Charm and Lesser Convert for Bards and Evangelists). Several rounds of tweaks had already been implemented to deal with priority #4 of the community directions for balance, but after taking stock of the balance of production vs mind-control strategies reached in v1.29 and previous versions, more was needed.

Mind Controlled units now have +50% upkeep, nerfing mind-control strategies, while production and defense are boosted with cheaper Siege Workshops, Wooden Walls and access to racial defensive building after Builders' Hall

  • Change to mobility: as announced in previous articles (v1.28 & v1.29), a major change is finally there, reducing the mobility of Swimming units on Water (except for Sea Creatures) and making life more difficult for Flying and Floating units (who basically won't regain health when starting their turn above Water). This weakens domineering Flying/Floating doomstacks or harassing strategies (see discussion on the forum).


Non-Sea Creature with Swimming now use 4 MP per hex to move over Water, while Flying and Floating units regenerate a lot less over Water, boosting Sea Creatures and reducing the overpowerness of high-mobility stacks


v1.3 was actually released on the main branch of the balance mod in November 2020 but the article about it is written only now (as v1.31 is about to be released on the main branch, article to come soon!). The release happened about 7 months after v1.29 (against a goal of a release every 3.5 months).


v1.3 is a pretty massive update, even though it still does not include the Racial Governance overhaul in the works for quite some time now: this overhaul was delayed (at least to v1.33, or later) since it represents a very significant amount of work (help welcome on the forum!). This release is probably one of the last few major updates of the balance of the game. The next versions are likely to be more modest. The last three major topics to tackle are Racial Governance, AI and balance of the Shadow Realm expansion.

v1.31 will be a more minor update, bringing some polishing and moving Arch Druid and Theocrat's T3 to their 2nd class building, in line with other classes.


Full changelog of v1.3 (also available on the official changelog of the balance mod)

Bug correction
- Issues/bugs of the balance mod corrected:

  • Domain of the Sun correctly states units and cities like Volcanic
  • Clearing an Item Rack with Very Weak defenders sometimes give no reward. This is due to Item Racks getting +50% defenders due to Strong defenders settings but not getting +50% reward value for some unknown reasons. So the multiplier must be reverted back to 0.7 (from 0.47).
  • "Convert" (actually Lesser Convert) skill for Theocrat Leaders now correctly displays the attack strength of 8 spirit instead display {{ResistValue} in the Leader’s unit panel when Produce Evangelist is not researched
  • Solar Spire can no longer be produced in the Arcane Item Forge (the issue had been fixed earlier but had reappeared)
  • Solid Chain of Coif of Heroes (Strong) is now correctly in the Strong item category for item rewards

- Incompatibilities fixed: Extended Settings - More Game and Map Setting Options - Huge and Gigantic map sizes are available and no longer replaced by Small Square Map and Medium Square Map


General
- True Resurrect costs 40 CP (was 50 CP)
- Wooden Walls cost 90 gold (was 100 gold)
- Siege Workshop costs 130 gold (was 150 gold)
- Builders have a new ability, Repair Wall: touch ability which heals 25 HP to a wall (unused by AI)
- Builder's Hall (was Siege Workshop) unlocks the racial defensive building (e.g. Filth Pit for Goblins)
- Item Rack's item reward rarity depends on the strength of the defenders:

  • Very Weak & Weak Defenders: Common items
  • Average: Strong items
  • Strong and Very Strong: Epic items

(in modding terms, it's split it into 5 different adventure sets)
(was 1 reward set with all items available, and value of items linked to defenders' strength)

- Obsidian Armor of the Black Knight gives 40% Blight, Fire, Frost, Shock, Spirit Protection and +2 Defense (was 60% light, Fire, Frost, Shock, Spirit Protection and +3 Defense)
- Frost Wyvern Egg, Fire Wyvern Egg, Cursed Egg are Legendary (was Epic)
- Draconian Diet Dish is Legendary (was Mythical)
- Swimming now uses 4 MP/hex on the strategic map. Sea Creatures get Natural Swimming and still uses 3 MP/hex.
Sea Creatures never take attack of opportunity (like units using Sprint).
- Flying and Floating units get -12 HP regeneration per turn when starting their turn over water. This means they regenerate 0 HP even with Fast Healing (x1). This does not affect active healing (e.g. from Nourishing Meal). Cannot Regenerate units (Machines, Undeads) are excluded.
- Mind-controlled units cost more in upkeep:+50% gold / turn (was +25%)
- 14 descriptions and Tome of Wonders pages are updated to correct imprecise or incorrect descriptions. Full list.


Arch Druid
- One with the Elements: 50 CP to disjunct (was 60 CP to disjunct)
- Nature's Eyes: 70 CP to cast, 70 CP to disjunct (was 80 CP, 100 CP to disjunct)
- Thorn Hedge Walls: 60 CP to cast, 60 CP to disjunct (was 120 CP, 120 CP to disjunct)
- Fertile Domain: 40 CP to disjunct (was 50 CP to disjunct)
- Insect Plague: 20 upkeep, 50 CP to cast, 50 CP to disjunct (was 15 upkeep, 60 CP, 50 CP to disjunct)
- Poison Domain: 50 CP to cast, 50 CP to disjunct (100 CP, 110 CP to disjunct)
- Wild Growth: tier III, 220 RP, 40 CP to cast (was tier IV, 350 RP, 60 CP)
- The Wild Hunt: 80 upkeep, 450 CP to disjunct (was 64 upkeep, 500 CP to disjunct)


Overall, strategic spells are now easier to cast (Insect Plague at 50 CP instead of 60 CP) but disjunction is also cheaper and upkeep slightly higher, boosting non-summon spellcasting and beginning to address late game mana floods


Dreadnought
- Mana Fuel Cells: 20 CP to disjunct, 15 upkeep (was 40 CP to disjunct, 20 upkeep)
- Suppress Nature: 60 CP to cast, 60 CP to disjunct (was 100 CP, 120 CP to disjunct)
- The Great Mobilization: 100 upkeep, 450 CP to disjunct (was 80 upkeep, 500 CP to disjunct)
- Dragon Oil: 60 CP to cast, 60 CP to disjunct (was 120 CP, 120 CP to disjunct)

Rogue
- Bards have Lesser Charm (was Charm)
- Poison Mastery: 50 CP to disjunct (was 60 CP to disjunct)
- Treasure Raiding: 15 upkeep, 50 CP to cast, 50 CP to disjunct (was 10 upkeep, 60 CP, 60 CP to disjunct)
- Corpse Looting: 20 upkeep, 60 CP to disjunct (was 15 upkeep, 70 CP to disjunct)
- Incite Revolt: 60 CP to disjunct (was 80 CP to disjunct)
- Guild of Shadow Thieves: 60 CP to disjunct (was 70 CP to disjunct)
- Network of Scrying Eyes: 120 CP to cast, 120 CP to disjunct (was 150 CP, 170 CP to disjunct)
- Night Wish: 350 RP, 25 upkeep, 60 CP to cast, 60 CP to disjunct (was 400 RP, 5 upkeep, 100 CP, 110 CP to disjunct)
- Age of Deception: 100 upkeep, 450 CP to disjunct (was 80 upkeep, 500 CP to disjunct)

Sorcerer
- Mend Magical Being is once per battle for Apprentices (was 2 turn cooldown in the balance mod and once per battle in the official game)
- Glyphs of Warding: 40 CP to disjunct (was 50 CP to disjunct)
- Enchanted Walls: 60 CP to cast, 60 CP to disjunct (was 120 CP, 140 CP to disjunct)
- Summoner's Aura: 25 upkeep, 60 CP to cast, 60 CP to disjunct (was 15 upkeep, 100 CP, 110 CP to disjunct)
- Dome of Protection: 30 upkeep, 60 CP to cast, 60 CP to disjunct (was 20 upkeep, 100 CP, 120 CP to disjunct)
- Spell of Return: 80 CP to cast (was 100 CP)
- Age of Magic: 100 upkeep, 450 CP to disjunct (was 80 upkeep, 500 CP to disjunct)

Theocrat
- Evangelists have Lesser Convert (was Convert)
- Paid Absolution - 70 CP and 70 CP to disjunct (was 80 CP and 90 CP to disjunct)
- Prayer for the Hurt - 80 CP, 25 upkeep and 80 CP to disjunct (was 100 CP, 30 upkeep and 90 CP to disjunct)
- Beacon of Faith - 120 RP and 30 CP, 30 CP to disjunct (was 130 RP and 40 CP, 50 CP to disjunct)
- Sanctified Sites - 20 upkeep, 100 CP to disjunct (was 15 upkeep, 110 to disjunct)
- Armageddon - 100 upkeep, 440 CP to disjunct (was 80 upkeep, 550 CP to disjunct)
- Hallowed Domain - 80 CP, 80 CP to disjunct (was 80 CP, 90 to disjunct)

Warlord
- The Draft: 40 upkeep, 100 CP to cast, 100 CP to disjunct (was 30 upkeep, 120 CP, 130 CP to disjunct)
- Conqueror's Feast: 80 upkeep, 120 CP to disjunct (was 40 upkeep, 140 CP to disjunct)
- Hero Slaying: 20 upkeep, 80 CP to cast, 80 CP to disjunct (was 30 upkeep, 100 CP, 110 CP to disjunct)
- Global Assault: 100 upkeep, 440 CP to disjunct (was 80 upkeep, 600 CP, 500 CP to disjunct)
- Inspire Loyalty: 30 upkeep, 90 CP to cast, 90 CP to disjunct (was 20 upkeep, 100 CP, 110 CP to disjunct)

Earth
- Domain of Earth costs 160 RP and 40 CP (was 180 RP, 60CP)
- Earth Elemental has Regeneration (was Regrowth)
- Earth Elemental has 60% Fire and Frost Protection (was 100%)

Air
- Domain of Winter costs 160 RP and 40 CP (was 180 RP, 60CP)
- Arctic Empire costs 310 RP and 60 CP (was 350 RP, 80CP)

Fire
- Domain of the Sun costs 160 RP and 50 CP (was 180 RP, 70CP)
- Tropical Empire costs 310 RP and 60 CP (was 350 RP, 80CP)

Creation
- Domain of Life costs 160 RP and 40 CP (was 180 RP, 60CP)
- Temperate Empire costs 310 RP and 60 CP (was 350 RP, 80CP)

Destruction
- Domain of Corruption costs 160 RP and 40 CP (was 180 RP, 60CP)
- Blight Empire costs 310 RP and 60 CP (was 350 RP, 80CP)

Water
- Freeze Water: 25 CP to cast (was 40 CP)
- Drench the Land: 40 CP to cast (was 60 CP)

Wild Magic
- Warp Domain: 90 CP to cast (was 100 CP)

Shadowborn
- Seed of Distrust: 10 upkeep (was 5 upkeep)
- Embrace Darkness: 10 upkeep, 50 CP to cast, 50 CP to disjunct (was 5 upkeep, 60 CP, 120 CP to disjunct)
- Entwined by Shadows: 40 upkeep, 100 CP to disjunct (was 30 upkeep, 150 CP to disjunct)

Grey Guard
- Scales of Fortune: 10 upkeep, 50 CP to cast, 50 CP to disjunct (was 5 upkeep, 60 CP, 120 CP to disjunct)
- Shield of Dispassion: 40 upkeep, 100 CP to disjunct (was 20 upkeep, 150 CP to disjunct)

Keeper of Peace
- Rally of the Populace: 80 CP to disjunct (was 120 CP to disjunct)
- Keeper's Creed : 40 upkeep, 100 CP to disjunct (was 30 upkeep, 150 CP to disjunct)
- Spiritual Freedom: 10 upkeep, 50 CP to cast, 50 CP to disjunct (was 5 upkeep, 60 CP, 30 CP to disjunct)





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